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		<title>Around the Web July 2010</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of interest
Why the hell…? [2] – Do we need one? Some ambiguous thoughts on Conditional Immortality

http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/1032209-wide-gate-whole-truth.html The debate about hell continues on this forum. The last post only a couple of days ago.
http://wade.typepad.com/nonconformist_chronicles/2010/07/hell-and-revelation-hell-part-9.html Part 9 of Wade ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1522" title="world-wide-web" src="http://www.afterlife.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/world-wide-web-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" />Of interest</p>
<p><a title="Why the hell…? [2] – Do we need one?" rel="bookmark" href="http://apologiachristi.com/2010/07/21/why-the-hell%e2%80%a6-2-%e2%80%93-do-we-need-one/">Why the hell…? [2] – Do we need one?</a> Some ambiguous thoughts on Conditional Immortality</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/1032209-wide-gate-whole-truth.html">http://www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/1032209-wide-gate-whole-truth.html</a> The debate about hell continues on this forum. The last post only a couple of days ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://wade.typepad.com/nonconformist_chronicles/2010/07/hell-and-revelation-hell-part-9.html">http://wade.typepad.com/nonconformist_chronicles/2010/07/hell-and-revelation-hell-part-9.html</a> Part 9 of Wade Tannehill&#8217;s  series looking at hell</p>
<p>I found some  free books on Conditional Immortality and hell:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hell-know.net/">http://www.hell-know.net/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sheol-know.org/">http://www.sheol-know.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jewishnotgreek.com/">http://www.jewishnotgreek.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://theologica.ning.com/forum/topics/mortality-and-immortality?">http://theologica.ning.com/forum/topics/mortality-and-immortality?</a></p>
<p>From Focus on the Kingdom <a href="http://www.focusonthekingdomagazine.com/2010/07/v2-n3-immortality-and-our-need-to.html">http://www.focusonthekingdomagazine.com/2010/07/v2-n3-immortality-and-our-need-to.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=121&amp;t=89340">http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=121&amp;t=89340</a> a debate on a forum</p>
<p><a href="http://iwritetoberidofthings.blogspot.com/2010/06/this-could-be-heaven-or-this-could-be.html">This could be heaven or this could be hell</a> Includes an essay the author wrote after listening to sermons from <a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/" target="_blank">N T Wright</a>.</p>
<p>While N T Wright does not fully embrace conditional immortality I think he is asking some good questions. And he is calling the church to put the resurrection back at the centre of our faith.</p>
<p>Here is  N T Wright on You Tube<br />
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		<title>Around the web June 2010</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reflections Regarding Calvinism and Theological Disagreement &#8220;Let’s look at the two doctrines causing all the fuss. The first is called conditional immortality. Under this view, Hell is not a place of eternal, enduring torment for ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.afterlife.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/world-wide-web.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1522" title="world-wide-web" src="http://www.afterlife.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/world-wide-web.jpg" alt="" width="184" height="184" /></a><a href="http://teensground.com/flormechem/2010/05/26/reflections-regarding-calvinism-and-theological-disagreement/">Reflections Regarding Calvinism and Theological Disagreement</a> &#8220;Let’s look at the two doctrines causing all the fuss. The first is called conditional immortality. Under this view, Hell is not a place of eternal, enduring torment for humans. Instead, at some point in the judgment process, human souls of those who are not God’s children are annihilated. This view has been held for many years by those in some parts of the church and is not novel. In fact, when placed under the glare of theological scrutiny, the Biblical case upholding conditional immortality passes muster among the experts. Nevertheless, this teaching runs counter to traditional mainstream church teaching that predates the Reformation and scholars like Beckwith were unhappy to give ground on it. Despite this, under the “sola scriptura” rules of Protestant Biblical interpretation, tradition is not enough.&#8221;</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=138122">http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=138122</a> Forum discussion at Theology Web Campus on conditional immortality</p>
<p><a href="http://ddflowers.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/hell-eternal-torture/">http://ddflowers.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/hell-eternal-torture/</a> An article exploring Hell: Eternal Torture?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.churchrequel.com/church_requel/2010/03/are-human-beings-immortal.html">http://www.churchrequel.com/church_requel/2010/03/are-human-beings-immortal.html</a> Are Human Beings Immortal? The author does not come to Conditional Immortality conclusions but makes some good points. I quote &#8220;Now then, when one speaks of eternal life with God, one must also consider the flip side &#8211; eternal punishment.  Does eternal punishment require immortality?  The quick and easy answer is “no,” because one could interpret such “eternal” punishment not as an never-ending torment, but rather as a final, once-for-all-time, no-further-choice-to-made punishment.  The logical problem with such a solution is that if one applies this meaning to “eternal” on the punishment side of the equation, does not one then also have to be consistent and apply the same meaning on the blissful side?   Such a logic trap should not become a permanent snare.  Those who argue from the Biblical viewpoint alone, and not mixed with the Platonic presumption, anchor their understanding of immortality to God, and His election and His gift.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lampstandstudy.com/forum/theology/7647-eternal-torment-annihilation-what-happens-wicked.html">http://www.lampstandstudy.com/forum/theology/7647-eternal-torment-annihilation-what-happens-wicked.html</a> Discussion on Hell at the Lamp stand and Study forums</p>
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		<title>From around the web May 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 09:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Champions of Conditional Immortality in History- links to original documents
Soul Sleep Deviant Doctrine to Avoid &#8211; an article opposing our view. You may like to interact with the author. I have left a link to this website ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.specialtyinterests.net/champions_of_conditional_immortality.html">Champions of Conditional Immortality in History</a>- links to original documents</p>
<p><a title="Soul Sleep [Deviant Doctrine to Avoid]" rel="bookmark" href="http://www.fallenandflawed.com/souls-sleep-doctrine/">Soul Sleep Deviant Doctrine to Avoid</a> &#8211; an article opposing our view. You may like to interact with the author. I have left a link to this website in the comments. The debate is still alive and well!</p>
<p><a href="http://kingdomready.org/blog/2010/01/30/the-first-lie/">The First Lie</a>- old poem</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beretta-online.com/wordpress" target="_self">Say Hello to my Little Friend</a> The <a href="http://www.beretta-online.com/"><strong>Beretta</strong></a> Blog and Podcast  has several articles on issues of the soul see <a href="http://www.beretta-online.com/wordpress/index.php/episode-026-in-search-of-the-soul-part-1/" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.beretta-online.com/wordpress/index.php/2-corinthians-12-an-out-of-body-experience/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>February Links Around the web</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Various links of interest that I have found in my travels. If you have other links please share them in the comments
kenschenck.blogspot.com/2010/01/94-soul-in-body-part-1.html
nhbcpo.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-do-we-mean-by-hell.html
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.afterlife.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/world-wide-web.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1522" title="world-wide-web" src="http://www.afterlife.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/world-wide-web.jpg" alt="" width="184" height="184" /></a>Various links of interest that I have found in my travels. If you have other links please share them in the comments</p>
<p><a href="http://kenschenck.blogspot.com/2010/01/94-soul-in-body-part-1.html" target="_blank">kenschenck.blogspot.com/2010/01/94-soul-in-body-part-1.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://nhbcpo.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-do-we-mean-by-hell.html" target="_blank">nhbcpo.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-do-we-mean-by-hell.html</a></p>
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